I love that Dygma has never been afraid to speak openly and honestly, whether about supply chain issues or firmware opportunities, or mistakes made, or even competitor products. It really feels like Dygma just wants you to succeed, however you get there, and it's that attitude that really helped me feel like I was making a good investment in the Defy.
Thanks for the kind words! We're so happy you feel that way. All our success came from crowdfunding, so basically, our customers are our investors. So we do what we can to provide the best (product, information, service, etc) to our community.
@@DygmaLab ¡De nada! Bueno, el dinero ayuda, y esa es una actitud muy agradecida, pero ustedes hacen el trabajo de convertir las inversiones de su comunidad en magia 😊 ¡Y no puedo esperar a escuchar sobre el próximo producto que creen!
10:15 For the Logitec keyboard, I have it. It works well, but it forces your mouse so far to the right with the large gap and numpad that you'll have shoulder stress, even if the rest of the setup is ergonomic. I use a vertical mouse, with the Logitec keyboard, and am looking at a Dygma keyboard because I can put my mouse in the middle, or not have it so far to the right. For professionals who feel this shoulder issue, I'd recommend the Microsoft Sculpt keyboard that has the numpad as a separate piece you can have on the right or the left.
I think that most part of the ergonomic keyboards community grew up being open-source and with a very engaged community, so I dont see this kind of videos as a "shot in the foot", but instead as a way to show that they are honest and concerned with the community, which is a huge deal! I already have an ergo keyboard but pretend to buy a dygma when I can because how premium it looks and the support it has
The point of an ergonomic keyboard is that it should be designed to fit you, the user, taking into account your health, comfort, and efficiency. Everyone is unique and has different needs (and budgets). We provide the information so you guys can make the informed decision :) I hope one day you get a Dygma keyboard! Maybe your company can get it for you? ;)
I've pre ordered the raise 2 just because 1. I believe your team is extremely passionate and have put there heart, blood , sweat and tears into this product. 2.Supporting small business is important to me. 3. Im new to split and love that I can learn with this board and slowly split. 4. Playing first person shooters or some games I can use half a keyboard and have more mouse space. 5. I love how I can make the raise 2 mine by selecting what I want built into the keyboard and customise switches down the track with them being hot swappable. Im very excited for the orders to start rolling out in October 😁 Thanks Dygma 😉 ❤
Thanks so much for the support! We're thrilled that you're excited about the Raise 2! So are we 😂 It means a lot that you believe in our team and backing our small business. We can't wait for you to get your hands on the Raise 2 in October and start customizing it to make it truly yours!
Really appreciate that you guys didn't throw the keyboard under the bus and said a few good things (like the price etc). I can't wait to get the Raise btw 😄
I did jump from no mechanical keyboards at all, to the dygma raise, I went all in, and at first it was hard but I got used to it. The layers are the best, and it gives you a sense of having your own personalized keyboard for your own specific needs. Now I have the dygma defy, and I gotta say, I love it so much, is my main driver and I miss it when I'm not using it or I'm using my laptop. I like that I can split my keyboard at any distance, sometimes I get them closer to my laptop, some times it goes further apart, it really just depends on how I feel that day and I love that the keyboard just lets you do it. I don't mind the extra cost (I'm lucky I can afford it) but for someone who has to write all day long (software engineer) both dygma keyboards are amazing, although I like the defy better because of the columnar layout, I didn't realize how much better my hands move now and how comfortable it feels to type.
Hey @AndrewWoolfgang! Thanks for sharing your experience with both the Raise and the Defy! Sometimes going all in is the way to go! We’re really happy to hear that the Defy has become your main driver and that the flexibility to split the keyboard to your liking has made such a difference in your daily routine. Yeah I feel like, for people who use the keyboard all day long, it just makes sense to invest in the best tools. We appreciate your support and are thrilled to be a part of your journey!
We've reviewed other ergo keyboards too! If you're interested in checking them out: ruclips.net/video/cUmQMm_cy9I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/i8abMRv7kMM/видео.html. We'll do more reviews on other ergo keyboards as well :)
I would love to see your opinion on 624 model, which is true physical split, wireless and has low profile keys. I am currently on MS Sculpt and would probably consider Dygma Raise but it’s just not in my budget :(
I'm waiting for someone to make something similar to the Planet 6 keyboard. Integrated trackball in the middle with Ergodox style layout in one whole package. Then I'll say "I heard enough. Take my money!"
@@DygmaLab Yes, I saw a comment on another of your videos and you stated that it was just too big to allow for thumb clusters. But as you can see from the Planet 6 keyboard, it has thumb clusters...
I spent over $225 on a Kinesis Freestyle 2 three weeks ago. I hate it. Key travel is horrendous, the layout is irritating and the Copy, Paste, Undo, etc. keys on the left hand side fail as often as the work. I've decided to cut my losses and have just ordered a Dygma Defy. I have to say your honest review of the cheapest keyboard was refreshing. It would have been all to easy to rip it apart and deny it any value at all. The review reflects well on your company.
Smart choice 😅 We like to be honest in our reviews because not every body has 350-600 USD to spend on a keyboard. Our ultimate goal is to get people started in their ergonomic journey. We believe that eventually, they'll end up considering our keyboards 😊
For me hate is kind of a strong word. I used the Freestyle 2 for several months. I bought it used for about $60, but spent a lot on that Ascent tenting accessory. I ended up in the same place as you, however, buying the Defy, but it did help me narrow down the features that I needed in an ergonomic board. For example, I need a lot of tenting, so Dogma's 60 degree integrated tenting was a big factor in choosing it over other boards. I had the wired version of the Freestyle 2, and also realized that I really missed having the wireless capabilities of my old K860. Point is, the journey doesn't hurt. It helps us focus.
how many of the cheap ones would the average person need to buy over the same lifetime as the quality build ? at least a few either constantly searching for something better, or because of wear out, faults etc ? Still looking forward to mine when shipping starts :)
I would love to see a review of the ZSA Voyager and have it compared with your Defy. I'm considering both, but I also like the very low profile and footprint of the Voyager. Thanks again for another great video!
We'll be doing one very soon! We're also currently testing the Glove80. But normally, we take a couple of weeks to a month of testing before doing any review. So stay tuned!
@@DygmaLab looking forward to a Glove80 comparison! I'd actually be really interested to hear your thoughts on concave keyboards and whether Dygma would consider building one in the future (or Defy 2 maybe?).
@@egorand This comparison video would take a lot research, and scripting it properly would take time. The thing is, ergonomics is a spectrum. The farther you are in the spectrum, the more complex the actual design of the keyboard becomes for it to meet ALL the ergonomic requirements. The thing with concave keyboards is that it lifts the keyboard higher, so in essence, one ergonomic principle defeats the other. It's tricky really. But we'll be able to share all our findings and conclusions in that future video :)
Same as anything else: you can buy a whole bunch of cheap versions wondering what they’re like, and after spending hundreds of dollars wonder if you can afford the nice one, or I can just get the nice one from the start…
At the end of the day, it's an investment. And if you use the keyboard every single day, 8-12 hours a day, you gotta get the best one that will a. make you work more comfortably, b. reduce the risks of you getting injured, c. boost your productivity.
I looked at these Perixx keyboards and I didn't like they are all plastic. Even the ones with backlight. The Microsoft Ergo Keyboard is way more comfortable to use and has a nice cushion + reverse tilt. The Logitech keyboards are way too expensive without backlight and chiclet keys are not my thing. But for someone who wants to try a split and tented keyboard, I guess these Perixx are decent. The Microsoft Ergo keyboards are always out of stock for some reason. I think I've own 4 Microsoft Ergo or Natural keyboards since the original beige ones but needed backlight, so I got the Defy, which is 17 times the price of the Perixx and 10 times of the Microsoft Ergo. My wife's jaw hit the ground when she finally discovered the price but so far, I think it's a good investment. I don't think I need to buy another keyboard for another 10 years. 😁 I did a hard switch and forced myself to learn and customise my layers as I go along. My typing speed is finally close to normal but I need to figure out where to place some modifiers especially during word processing.
It takes time to adapt to a new keyboard, especially the Defy if you have never tried ortholinear or columnar keyboards before, but once you get used to it, you see that the time practising (and the money) was worth 🙌 We hope your wife sees it too 😜
😂 yeah! no worries. Honestly, if it fits your budget, and you're new to ergo keyboards, and you don't have that much pain on your shoulders from long hours of typing, and you don't want to optimize your workflow, then go for it! It's actually a comfy keyboard! ;)
@@Doodmeister0, May I ask, why would you want a full-size Raise? With a full-size keyboard, you'll end up making unnecessary hand movements and defeats the purpose of the programmability of the Raise. Keeping your hands on the home row is key. And then, since it's fully programmable, you can put the arrow keys on IJKL or ESDF on another layer. You can have the numpad on the right half, and have macros and key combos in a single keypress. You can have the functionality of a full-size keyboard, and a macro pad, in a smaller footprint :)
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
I love that Dygma has never been afraid to speak openly and honestly, whether about supply chain issues or firmware opportunities, or mistakes made, or even competitor products. It really feels like Dygma just wants you to succeed, however you get there, and it's that attitude that really helped me feel like I was making a good investment in the Defy.
Thanks for the kind words! We're so happy you feel that way. All our success came from crowdfunding, so basically, our customers are our investors. So we do what we can to provide the best (product, information, service, etc) to our community.
@@DygmaLab ¡De nada! Bueno, el dinero ayuda, y esa es una actitud muy agradecida, pero ustedes hacen el trabajo de convertir las inversiones de su comunidad en magia 😊 ¡Y no puedo esperar a escuchar sobre el próximo producto que creen!
They talk aboout other products to advertise how they would be "superior". This is called marketing...
10:15 For the Logitec keyboard, I have it. It works well, but it forces your mouse so far to the right with the large gap and numpad that you'll have shoulder stress, even if the rest of the setup is ergonomic. I use a vertical mouse, with the Logitec keyboard, and am looking at a Dygma keyboard because I can put my mouse in the middle, or not have it so far to the right.
For professionals who feel this shoulder issue, I'd recommend the Microsoft Sculpt keyboard that has the numpad as a separate piece you can have on the right or the left.
That's one of its biggest issue 😣 A split keyboard will fix that for sure 🙌
I think that most part of the ergonomic keyboards community grew up being open-source and with a very engaged community, so I dont see this kind of videos as a "shot in the foot", but instead as a way to show that they are honest and concerned with the community, which is a huge deal!
I already have an ergo keyboard but pretend to buy a dygma when I can because how premium it looks and the support it has
The point of an ergonomic keyboard is that it should be designed to fit you, the user, taking into account your health, comfort, and efficiency. Everyone is unique and has different needs (and budgets). We provide the information so you guys can make the informed decision :)
I hope one day you get a Dygma keyboard! Maybe your company can get it for you? ;)
I've pre ordered the raise 2 just because
1. I believe your team is extremely passionate and have put there heart, blood , sweat and tears into this product.
2.Supporting small business is important to me.
3. Im new to split and love that I can learn with this board and slowly split.
4. Playing first person shooters or some games I can use half a keyboard and have more mouse space.
5. I love how I can make the raise 2 mine by selecting what I want built into the keyboard and customise switches down the track with them being hot swappable.
Im very excited for the orders to start rolling out in October 😁
Thanks Dygma 😉 ❤
Thanks so much for the support! We're thrilled that you're excited about the Raise 2! So are we 😂
It means a lot that you believe in our team and backing our small business. We can't wait for you to get your hands on the Raise 2 in October and start customizing it to make it truly yours!
Never thought that my favorite keyboard content would come from a brand that i don’t use. Love your content. Your keyboards look awesome as well! 👏👏
Thanks man! Hope you can get a Dygma keyboard in the near future!
Really appreciate that you guys didn't throw the keyboard under the bus and said a few good things (like the price etc). I can't wait to get the Raise btw 😄
Haha we wouldn't dare! Super excited for you too!
I did jump from no mechanical keyboards at all, to the dygma raise, I went all in, and at first it was hard but I got used to it. The layers are the best, and it gives you a sense of having your own personalized keyboard for your own specific needs.
Now I have the dygma defy, and I gotta say, I love it so much, is my main driver and I miss it when I'm not using it or I'm using my laptop. I like that I can split my keyboard at any distance, sometimes I get them closer to my laptop, some times it goes further apart, it really just depends on how I feel that day and I love that the keyboard just lets you do it.
I don't mind the extra cost (I'm lucky I can afford it) but for someone who has to write all day long (software engineer) both dygma keyboards are amazing, although I like the defy better because of the columnar layout, I didn't realize how much better my hands move now and how comfortable it feels to type.
Hey @AndrewWoolfgang! Thanks for sharing your experience with both the Raise and the Defy! Sometimes going all in is the way to go! We’re really happy to hear that the Defy has become your main driver and that the flexibility to split the keyboard to your liking has made such a difference in your daily routine.
Yeah I feel like, for people who use the keyboard all day long, it just makes sense to invest in the best tools.
We appreciate your support and are thrilled to be a part of your journey!
One keyboard manufacturer who has enough trust in its quality to feature other ergo keebs... you should review the lander etc as well!
We've reviewed other ergo keyboards too! If you're interested in checking them out: ruclips.net/video/cUmQMm_cy9I/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/i8abMRv7kMM/видео.html. We'll do more reviews on other ergo keyboards as well :)
I would love to see your opinion on 624 model, which is true physical split, wireless and has low profile keys. I am currently on MS Sculpt and would probably consider Dygma Raise but it’s just not in my budget :(
I'll add it to the list. It looks like a Logitech Ergo but truly split 😊
Great news! 🎉
Hiiiii!!!! 🥰🥰🥰
I'm waiting for someone to make something similar to the Planet 6 keyboard. Integrated trackball in the middle with Ergodox style layout in one whole package. Then I'll say "I heard enough. Take my money!"
Interesting idea! We've toyed with the idea of a split trackpad in the middle...
@@DygmaLab Yes, I saw a comment on another of your videos and you stated that it was just too big to allow for thumb clusters. But as you can see from the Planet 6 keyboard, it has thumb clusters...
I spent over $225 on a Kinesis Freestyle 2 three weeks ago. I hate it. Key travel is horrendous, the layout is irritating and the Copy, Paste, Undo, etc. keys on the left hand side fail as often as the work. I've decided to cut my losses and have just ordered a Dygma Defy.
I have to say your honest review of the cheapest keyboard was refreshing. It would have been all to easy to rip it apart and deny it any value at all. The review reflects well on your company.
Smart choice 😅
We like to be honest in our reviews because not every body has 350-600 USD to spend on a keyboard. Our ultimate goal is to get people started in their ergonomic journey. We believe that eventually, they'll end up considering our keyboards 😊
For me hate is kind of a strong word. I used the Freestyle 2 for several months. I bought it used for about $60, but spent a lot on that Ascent tenting accessory. I ended up in the same place as you, however, buying the Defy, but it did help me narrow down the features that I needed in an ergonomic board. For example, I need a lot of tenting, so Dogma's 60 degree integrated tenting was a big factor in choosing it over other boards. I had the wired version of the Freestyle 2, and also realized that I really missed having the wireless capabilities of my old K860. Point is, the journey doesn't hurt. It helps us focus.
how many of the cheap ones would the average person need to buy over the same lifetime as the quality build ? at least a few either constantly searching for something better, or because of wear out, faults etc ? Still looking forward to mine when shipping starts :)
The Raise isn't for average people 😂 So the average person will get cheap keyboards all their lives.
You could review the ms sculpt. Soon te be the incase sculpt.
Does it make sense to review a keyboard that's no longer made?
We could review the PERIDUO-606A which is its spiritual successor 😅
Well... as I stated, it will be released under the incase brand.
Let's hope that comes to fruition 😊
I would love to see a review of the ZSA Voyager and have it compared with your Defy. I'm considering both, but I also like the very low profile and footprint of the Voyager.
Thanks again for another great video!
We'll be doing one very soon! We're also currently testing the Glove80. But normally, we take a couple of weeks to a month of testing before doing any review. So stay tuned!
@@DygmaLab LOVE IT!!! Wanna send me the Voyager (and Defy) when you're done testing? LOL 😉
@@DygmaLab looking forward to a Glove80 comparison! I'd actually be really interested to hear your thoughts on concave keyboards and whether Dygma would consider building one in the future (or Defy 2 maybe?).
@@Phrish Haha I would if I could!
@@egorand This comparison video would take a lot research, and scripting it properly would take time. The thing is, ergonomics is a spectrum. The farther you are in the spectrum, the more complex the actual design of the keyboard becomes for it to meet ALL the ergonomic requirements. The thing with concave keyboards is that it lifts the keyboard higher, so in essence, one ergonomic principle defeats the other. It's tricky really. But we'll be able to share all our findings and conclusions in that future video :)
Same as anything else: you can buy a whole bunch of cheap versions wondering what they’re like, and after spending hundreds of dollars wonder if you can afford the nice one, or I can just get the nice one from the start…
At the end of the day, it's an investment. And if you use the keyboard every single day, 8-12 hours a day, you gotta get the best one that will a. make you work more comfortably, b. reduce the risks of you getting injured, c. boost your productivity.
How many tries did it take on that exit to get both chairs to spin around and face forward LOL?
3 takes! 😂
great quality content as always
Thanks man!
I looked at these Perixx keyboards and I didn't like they are all plastic. Even the ones with backlight. The Microsoft Ergo Keyboard is way more comfortable to use and has a nice cushion + reverse tilt.
The Logitech keyboards are way too expensive without backlight and chiclet keys are not my thing.
But for someone who wants to try a split and tented keyboard, I guess these Perixx are decent. The Microsoft Ergo keyboards are always out of stock for some reason.
I think I've own 4 Microsoft Ergo or Natural keyboards since the original beige ones but needed backlight, so I got the Defy, which is 17 times the price of the Perixx and 10 times of the Microsoft Ergo.
My wife's jaw hit the ground when she finally discovered the price but so far, I think it's a good investment. I don't think I need to buy another keyboard for another 10 years. 😁
I did a hard switch and forced myself to learn and customise my layers as I go along. My typing speed is finally close to normal but I need to figure out where to place some modifiers especially during word processing.
It takes time to adapt to a new keyboard, especially the Defy if you have never tried ortholinear or columnar keyboards before, but once you get used to it, you see that the time practising (and the money) was worth 🙌 We hope your wife sees it too 😜
Now try the cheapest aliexpress "corne" alike to showcase the difference
Good idea!
Please review the Charybdis Nano 😊
Ohh we'll check it! Thank you for the suggestion! 😊
You should talk about charachorder
Yeah it's an interesting concept!
Thank you. it convinced me to buy this keyboard over the dygma raise 2. Cheers!
😂 yeah! no worries. Honestly, if it fits your budget, and you're new to ergo keyboards, and you don't have that much pain on your shoulders from long hours of typing, and you don't want to optimize your workflow, then go for it! It's actually a comfy keyboard! ;)
@@DygmaLabif you guys create a full sized Raise I will die of happiness
@@Doodmeister0 have you looked into the Defy? You can make magic happen with 8 thumbkeys per hand. Are you not interested in ortho?
@@Doodmeister0, May I ask, why would you want a full-size Raise? With a full-size keyboard, you'll end up making unnecessary hand movements and defeats the purpose of the programmability of the Raise. Keeping your hands on the home row is key. And then, since it's fully programmable, you can put the arrow keys on IJKL or ESDF on another layer. You can have the numpad on the right half, and have macros and key combos in a single keypress. You can have the functionality of a full-size keyboard, and a macro pad, in a smaller footprint :)